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Tioman flash flood was too strong, says survivor

SINGAPORE, Aug 13 — Johnathan David held on to his girlfriend and her niece as tight as he could, even as a flash flood from a sudden storm poured down on them.

David, 49, Anny Grace Muthu, 46, her nephew Johnathan Johnson, 17, and his sister Amelia Johnson, 19, struggled to keep themselves from getting swept off the edge of an outcrop at a waterfall.

As the waters roared around him, David felt his girlfriend, Anny Grace, go limp.
Then she was gone.
She slipped from his grip and was swept off the rocky outcrop. About 20 minutes later, the other three were swept away too.

Only David and the young man survived the ordeal which happened at a waterfall on Pulau Tioman, Malaysia, early on Monday morning.

Speaking to The Straits Times yesterday before he attended the wake for the two women, Mr David could not stop blaming himself. He said: “I let two lives slip from my hand. The only consolation is the boy. I’ve so many things going through my head, all the what-ifs.”

The four Singaporeans had gone to Tioman last Saturday for a three-day trip that would have ended on Monday.

On Sunday, they trekked to the upper reaches of the Asah Waterfall. It was dark by the time they reached their destination and the group made a “collective decision” to wait until daybreak on the downward sloping outcrop.

Anny had injured her ribs during the trek, and “if we had gone back then, it’d have been dark and very unsafe”, said David.

As they waited, a slight drizzle at 3am eventually became a heavy downpour.
David, a materials and services coordinator, said: “As the rain went into the first hour, I was already worried. I knew what could be coming but I couldn’t do anything.”
His worst fear of being swept off the outcrop came true when streams of water gushed over the rock wall behind them.

David said: “I could hear a roar in the distance. Immediately, I told them to brace themselves. We planted our feet down as best as we could, but the water was so strong it swept us to the edge of the outcrop.” Not long after, he lost Anny.

“I only managed to grab her right hand...all I could do was to scream her name,” he said, adding that he was also gripping Johnson on his left.

The young woman never emerged from the water when they were all swept away.
David said he was “banged around” on what felt like “a ride down a slide”. He eventually found himself next to his girlfriend’s nephew, near two rocks in waist-deep water.

They remained there until the darkness lifted and the rain petered out.
They trekked out of the falls to seek help. A search party comprising policemen and villagers eventually found the bodies of the women....... The Straits Times
Sumber : http://themalaysianinsider.com/
Minggu ni dah 2 kali dengar berita air besar kat waterfall. Pernah nampak depan mata 2 kali, dan hampir2 member jadi mangsa sekali kat Sg Chilling.

Biasanya kat waterfall ni ada tanda2 air besar akan berlaku. Ada sapa2 ada experience atau pernah terbaca pasal fenomena nie, kalau boleh kongsi.
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batubatu dlm air akan bergerak sebelum kepala air nih smp..

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selalu sebelum kepala air, sampah2 daun dan kayu2 akan hanyut dulu..lepas tu kayu2 besar mcm balak2 akan hanyut dan lepas tu...whooooshhhh....
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tak penah tengok sniri.. tp penah dengar dari seseorang (lupe lak sape hehhe)..

-kelodak sungai mula naik..
-suhu sungai naik.. kalo tgh berendam ley rasa..
-buih2 yang tak mcm biasa saiznye mula terbentuk..

ade sesape ley verify betol ke simptom kepala air mcm nih?? aku tak penah tgk sniri larrr....
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kabusgunung wrote:batubatu dlm air akan bergerak sebelum kepala air nih smp..
salam mawi...
aku x bape clear psl nih... pergerakan yg cam ne...

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ko selalu lepak kat sg kaki mesti celup dlm air...
kadang kaki ko pijak batu dlm air tuh...
selalu ko lepak... batu yg ko pijak tadak rasa apa-apa...
batu mesti laaah keras... nak goyang pn tak tergoyang... kalo x bukan batu...
tp kalo ko rasa batu tuhh gerak2...gegar2....siap sedialh

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satu lagi petua..kalo selipar yg diletakkan btul2 tepi gigi air sungai tuh tetibe je hanyut, maka siap sedia laa mengejar selipar tuh dan selamatkan laa diri anda :mrgreen:
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baru je balik dari pulau tioman semalam...cantik betul tempat ni. Ada gunung yg tinggi pulak tu kt sini.

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kepala air la ni kan..
cepat atau lambat kepala air ni sampai begantung pd kecerunan sg dan volume air yg akan sampai..

apa yg info kengkawan bagi kt atas tu mmg benar2 belaka..
dan kalo ikot cara kronologinya dlm 5-10minit yg pertama aqu rasa camni..
-anak2 ikan yg biasa main2 kt kaki kita tetiba lesap..pastu
-burung2 mula kecoh semacam..pastu
-suhu air sg tiba2 hangat..pastu
-buih2 air sg tiba2 cam banyak dr biasa..pastu
-habuk2 kayu yg kecik2 terapong..pastu
-batu2 kecik kt dasar bergerak..pastu
-sg berubah warna..pastu
-kayu2 yg besar skek mula terapong..pastu
-bunyi yg kuat dr hulu sg..pastu
whooshhh!!
byk yg terkena bila sedar2 ada bunyi kuat dr hulu..tp masa tu anda tinggal ada beberapa second je utk selamatkan diri..
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orga wrote:kepala air la ni kan..
cepat atau lambat kepala air ni sampai begantung pd kecerunan sg dan volume air yg akan sampai..

-buih2 air sg tiba2 cam banyak dr biasa..pastu
-habuk2 kayu yg kecik2 terapong..pastu
-sg berubah warna..pastu
-kayu2 yg besar skek mula terapong..pastu
Ha betul nih orga..... dulu aku pun kena macam nih, tapi takder la kepala air.... cuma masa tuh hujan kat belah atas, pastu selang beberapa jam, air mula pelik, macam ko katakan kat atas nih.

lepas buih + kayu, air naik laju bai.... seminit dalam 2 kaki... dahla masa tu camping betul betul kat gigi air...hehehe
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kalau tgk air sungai mula berubah dari segi warna atau deras , lebih baik angkat kaki.
takut air naik kepala , maksudnya kepala air yg datang dan melemaskan kita.
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aku x pernah tgk ngn mata kasar tp leh imagine skit-skit coz aku dpt email pasal kes air besar nie..tp kat Mag-Aso waterfall, Bohol, Philipinne.
dr photo-photo kat situ, leh la tgk cemna dr air yg tenang tiba-tiba leh mengorbankan 2 nyawa.
~ siap ada photo n description dr sorg yg captured that moment. kalau sesapa nak, bak mai email coz x reti nk upload gambau dlm nie.. ~

yg pastinya..memang 'bahaya'
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ya nozeck, aku punda pat email tuh... ngeri siot.... apa apa pun, awek tu selamat....hehehe

nanti saya cuba resize gambar + post kat sini
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maner gambornyer.....
last aku kena kepala kat air terjun serendah ahad lepas..... lepas hujan...
taim hujan tgh turun... mmg seronok mandi...
skali hujan berenti.... huru hara cabut fly bwk naik atas sket....
sekelip mata jerrrrr air naik....

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azlanhuzaifah wrote:gambo di sini
bos aku tepek gambar yang ko bagi tuh untuk tatapan bersama
ngeri siout...
gambar sebelum dan selepas



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nko tepek 'air besau' ke gambo 'awek' sebeno nyer... :lol:
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2 orang lelaki yang menyorok blakang air tuh ( tempat macam gua tuh ) dijumpai mati.....

giler ah..... tengok air naik sampai ke meja piknik tuh
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nozeck wrote:nko tepek 'air besau' ke gambo 'awek' sebeno nyer... :lol:
sambil menepek.sambil cuci matalah ekekeke
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air naik dlm masa 30 saat.... nak rescue ker haper...

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ni dari kamera cap ayam saya..

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ni gambar masa air tengah tenang...

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bila datang kepala air. masa ni hujan lebat kat atas nun


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ni belah atas sikit..masa cuaca cerah

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batu yang sama di atas dlm bulatan merah tu bila kepala air lalu...
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Risiko:
1. Pasang khemah jauh ler dari gigi air
2. Sekiranya hujan pastikan sentiasa berjaga-jaga.
3. Kalau yang berkeluarga tu jaga-jaga lah selalu exspecialy yang ada anak2
4. Sungai kecik pun leh jadi besar..

ha...meh-meh lerr tambah lauk lagi kat sini..?
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aqu share salahsatu kepala air yg paling cepat aqu penah tengok..
lokasi kt endau rompin..
pokok yg aqu arrowkan tuh penanda aras air

Sebelum

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orga wrote: Masa surut

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mana ade surut? sama je bumper aku tgkkk..auta lbeh laa abg orga nihhh :mrgreen:
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biNGai wrote:
orga wrote: Masa surut

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mana ade surut? sama je bumper aku tgkkk..auta lbeh laa abg orga nihhh :mrgreen:
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orga wrote:aqu share salahsatu kepala air yg paling cepat aqu penah tengok..
lokasi kt endau rompin..
Mr Orga,
Ni Endau Rompin kat area mana yer?
Masuk ikut Peta ke Selai?

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frostice..
peta bukan selai pon bukan..
ikut jln sendiri dr belakang..
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bro orga..
kalo tak silap gambar ni kat area lubuk durian kan?
masuk kat jalan belakang kan?
ikut felda selendang?
kalo tak silap saya lar..
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mmg masuk jalan belakang..
tp bukan dr tempat dimaksudkan..
maleh la citer sini..tp kalo citer bwh fly ok aja..
tempat ni aqu selalu gi kalo aqu nk belajar pasal air kt utan ujan..
ye la..endau rompin kan utan tertua..byk ilmu dlm tuh..
salah-satunya yg berkenaan topik ni..air besar atau kepala air..
kt area tuh kalo jadik kepala air, jangkamasa ia sampai lg cepat..
salahsatu sebabnya kt situ kepala air bukan stakat dtg dr depan tp dr bawah jugak..
kaw batu2 yg luas dlm gambo atas tu nampak je cam taderk apa..
tp kalo angkat sebijik dua, ada aras air kt bawah..
maknanya kalo berlaku air besar, kita hanya ada beberapa saat utk cabut..
tengok gambo bawah ni..
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endau rompin mmg aqu rekomen pd sesiapa yg belajar ttg kuasa air..
yg aqu tunjukkan ni skek je dlm 2-3persen camtu..
cemana nk pegi?..byk betol preparation dia..aqu pon pegi setahun sekali..
tahun ni blom pegi lg..ingat ujung tahun ni kot taim tengkujuh..
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bkan time musim tengkujuh ko kene KDN ke? almaklum laa..sejuk2 masa tuh, baik lepak umah ye dakkk? lain ler zaman2 bujang dulu.. :lidah:
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biNGai wrote:bkan time musim tengkujuh ko kene KDN ke? almaklum laa..sejuk2 masa tuh, baik lepak umah ye dakkk? lain ler zaman2 bujang dulu.. :lidah:
ko cam ngate diri sndr je ngai..
orga wrote:aqu share salahsatu kepala air yg paling cepat aqu penah tengok..
lokasi kt endau rompin..

air pasang / kepala air kat endau...mmg pelik leh kate setiap kali kepala air berlaku kat endau leh kate cam pg
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taun nih punye musim tengkujuh pospon lain taun laa.. :kah:
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oo betol la ngai..cam kena pospon ini thn..bln seblas bini aqu besalin daa..kalo tengkujuh bln doblas bole la pegi..

syed..kalo lepas air besar mmg area tuh akan berubah skek..
tp masa aqu gi area tuh lepas banjir besar kt johor dulu..tempat tu lg cantik lepas banjir..
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[quote="biNGai"]taun nih punye musim tengkujuh pospon lain taun laa.. :kah:

tu cam pun ade..tp ade brother tu tiap bulan tengkujuh ....camane pulak.. :keke:

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orga wrote:oo betol la ngai..cam kena pospon ini thn..bln seblas bini aqu besalin daa..kalo tengkujuh bln doblas bole la pegi..

syed..kalo lepas air besar mmg area tuh akan berubah skek..
tp masa aqu gi area tuh lepas banjir besar kt johor dulu..tempat tu lg cantik lepas banjir..
tu la tanda kebesaran Nya...cam endau tiap tahun lepas banjir besar aku mesti pegi tgk
keadaan sg die...bertambah cantik ..sg yg kering dah air lalu balik ..yg air lalu kering pulak..
gambo je aku xde sal maleh nak snap...
pendek kate kalo org lain kate utan negara luar cantik ape kurangnye ngan utan kite ni..

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orga wrote:aqu share salahsatu kepala air yg paling cepat aqu penah tengok..
lokasi kt endau rompin..

air pasang / kepala air kat endau...mmg pelik leh kate setiap kali kepala air berlaku kat endau leh kate cam pg
ke tempat baru...
statement ni aku mmg akui sokong 100%...cume jalan nak masuk tu je tahap boring gile..

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lastman wrote:
orga wrote:oo betol la ngai..cam kena pospon ini thn..bln seblas bini aqu besalin daa..kalo tengkujuh bln doblas bole la pegi..

syed..kalo lepas air besar mmg area tuh akan berubah skek..
tp masa aqu gi area tuh lepas banjir besar kt johor dulu..tempat tu lg cantik lepas banjir..
tu la tanda kebesaran Nya...cam endau tiap tahun lepas banjir besar aku mesti pegi tgk
keadaan sg die...bertambah cantik ..sg yg kering dah air lalu balik ..yg air lalu kering pulak..
gambo je aku xde sal maleh nak snap...
pendek kate kalo org lain kate utan negara luar cantik ape kurangnye ngan utan kite ni..
nanti kite pegi aku snapkan gambo dia :D
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musim hujan dan mula...dan beberapa kes berkaitan dah terjadi.... harap mana-mana kumpulan yg buat xtvt panjat gunung yg melibatkan cross sungai berwaspada...
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Isitilah debris flow @ aliran puing...
runtuhan tanah yang dibawah oleh air....dan kebiasaan nya pada waktu hujan..
nie ada beberapa kes dah berlaku just refresh balik ngan foto je...

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